Zbrojpvka BRNO Mauser Commercial rifle 8x60mm

Manufacturer’s marking and location.

Zbrojpvka BRNO Mauser Commercial rifle 8x60mm

Allow me in introduction to say this is one of those rifles that give one a sensuous feeling just picking it up.  That feeling increases when shouldering the rifle.  (The reader should look up ‘sensuous’ if suspecting I am sexually aroused by a rifle.)  This simply feels like a rifle should.

This is it. A device of steel and wood with spirit.

This is a bolt action rifle.  The action is made by Zbrojobka Brno in Czechoslovakia.  By the way, “Zbrojobka Brno” are the Czech words meaning ‘firearms manufacturing company’ in Brno, Czechoslovakia.  Brno is the name of a town and is pronounced “Bruno”.  “Zbrjobka” is pronounced “szBro-yo-ka” (the first part of the first syllable is sort of a ‘hiss’) as best as I can type it here.  There is a video on You Tube with audio giving a better model.  The meanings of the words are my understanding of usage shown on the internet.  Here endeth the linguistics lesson.  I speak no Czech, I found the pronunciation on YouTube.

Stock

The stock is of classic style. No cheek piece in the modern sense; intended for use with iron sights, not telescopic sight. Checkering around the grip and a bit on the forend, where gripped by the supporting hand. Rear sling swivel on the bottom of the stock, near the butt. Front swivel on the barrel. Fairly short forend with a ceremonial schnable rather than a noted one. Other than decoration, my observation is the schnable or knob or end cap is to serve as a stop or warning to the support hand of the end of the forearm. A ‘positioner’ if you will, to indicate the forward most position of the support hand. (Of course, I could be all wrong.) On the bottom of the fore end, one finds a metal ‘diamond’ inset into the stock fixed with a slotted screw. Until I remove the action from the stock, I have no idea.

The stock has been used. There are a few ‘dings’ and scars, none serious. The finish is ‘flat’ rather than shiny. The finish and use marks give the rifle character rather than an abused look.

Speaking of the stock, I find forty-seven (47) notches on the bottom side of the butt stock. From one man familiar with the customs and practices of the area, they indicate game (he said ‘moose’) taken with the rifle. It would appear this rifle has been taken hunting in times past.

All those notches represent taken game. Possibly moose.

Metal work suggests more than merely utilitarian intent.  All the metal parts are surface finished.  That is, all parts are smooth and even.  No grinder or machining marks.

Action

As mentioned, this is a bolt action rifle.  The size and general appearance suggests a basic 98 Mauser action.  (Presumably based on the VZ24 action.)  The action is commercial.  There are no charger clip guides and no left side thumb access.  Top of action has integral (milled into action) telescopic sight mounts.  The size of the integral rail is between the milled .22 long rifle rail on a .22 rifle and the outboard ridges of Weaver type mounts.  The space between the rails, the top of the action is handsomely milled in a ‘wave’ pattern.    One thinks this is more of a European design; your correspondent remembers no U. S. commercial or military rifle so equipped.

Hopefully the pictures give a better idea.

The forward top section of receiver showing scope mount rail.

Rear top of receiver showing details of scope rail. Also manual safety not of standard Mauser style.

On the forward portion of the action, the ‘top of the receiver’ where manufacturer, model designation and date of manufacture are found, there is a rather small logo featuring a stylized “CZ” on the grooved matte finish.  The “CZ” mark may indicate this rifle is a bit later than I originally thought, but is still a classic rifle.

One’s overall impression is this is not a reused military action, but manufactured as a commercial rifle action.

Bolt handle is the flat “spoon’ or “dog ear” type.  It is reminiscent of the Mannlicher-Schonauer rifles of the interwar period.  One finds no other features of the Mannlicher-Schonauer designed rifles.  The bolt shape feature draws one’s attention.

Bolt handle – Mannlicher look? – and manual safety.

As normal with ’98 actions, the magazine is fixed and non-detactable; capacity of five rounds. Also as usual, the floor plate of the magazine is openable to reload the magazine without chambering a round. This version has a lever on the floor plate to release the rear of the floor plate. A nice touch.

This lever allows magazine floor plate to be opened without high drama, but seems rather secure.

All metal parts are blued.  (There is wear from use, but nothing to suggest a poor job.)

Trigger is based on a military (Mauser, I presume) two-stage trigger.  Trigger pull  – after take up – is four and one half pounds (4.5 #) and rather clean.  I was rather surprised as this is rather light in relation to the military rifles I normally collect.  Happily surprised.

Sights

Iron sights mounted on the rifle are the traditional style European – including British – sights.  The receiver is drilled and tapped holes for scope mounts, but the stock puts one’s face and eye low for a scope.

Front sight is a standard post with bead – brass or gold faced – mounted on a transverse dovetail.  This is mounted on a ramp.  Front sight is installed by and ‘adjustable’ for windage by drifting at time of sight in.  It must be manually moved (commercial screw device or brass drift and hammer) and is not ‘adjustable’ by means of screw adjustments.

Front sight. Ramp with gold or brass bead. One can see the ‘hood’ groove; the hood is long gone.

Rear sight is an open top flat leaf.  The leaf portion is mounted in a dove tail, which is machined from a boss on the barrel, part of the barrel.  It too is drift adjustable for replacement and adjustment for windage.  It too is not readily adjustable by hand in the field.

Rear sight mounted in dove tail on boss integral with barrel.

Elevation is adjusted by either replacing the front sight with a higher or lower post; or filing down or replacing the rear sight leaf.

One observes this rifle – and sights – was intended for ‘standard’ factory loaded ammunition.  This did not consider various bullet weights nor alternate velocities as U. S. based reloader types might use.  The idea was to use one load of ammunition continuously.

Most military organizations have the same theory, if one considers the matter.

Originally the rear sight leaf had two leaves, one fixed for shorter ranges and one ‘flip up’ for longer ranges.  The ‘flip up’ sight has been lost.  I am searching for a replacement, but I imagine the leaf remaining will serve in nearly all cases, and all of my cases.

Trigger is based on a military (Mauser, I presume) two-stage trigger.  Trigger pull  – after take up – is four and one half pounds (4.5 #) and rather clean.  I was rather surprised as this is rather light in relation to the military rifles I normally collect.  Happily surprised.

Chambering and Ammunition

Caliber designation on barrel over chamber.

The caliber is 8x60mm S.  It is essentially a lengthened 8x57mm round.

8x60mmS loaded round. Believed to be 200 grain round nose soft point (expanding) bullet. Norma headstamp.

 

At the end of WWI, the Treaty of Versailles included a restriction on the Central Powers (the German and Austro-Hungarian Empires and their allies, vassals and such) from owning ‘military’ weapons.  However, ‘sporting’ – hunting – arms and personal defense weapons were allowed to be owned by civilians.  One presumes some local laws required registration of some sort.

As it happened, there were half-a-barn-door’s-full of hunting rifle – owned by civilians of course – in caliber 8x57mm.  That was the German Empire’s infantry rifle caliber.  (Much like the United States found the .30-06 Springfield cartridge to be handy for the same purpose.)

Some resourceful European gunsmiths came up with the idea of chambering the rifle a bit deeper.  This rather inexpensive modification changed the chambering and cartridge used by the rifle.

So, by deepening the chamber of a forbidden rifle in 8x57mm by three millimeters (two in the body and one in the neck) the rifle is now chambered for a ‘sporting’ cartridge, namely 8x60mm S.

Voila!  The rifle is no longer illegal!  I have no idea what rechambering a rifle cost in those days, but I’m willing to bet cheaper than forfeiting one’s rifle and buying another.

Barrels were unchanged, magazines (fixed and internal) were unchanged, bolt faces (the part that holds on to the cartridge) were unchanged, even the fussy bits inside the action funneling the cartridge into the chamber and removing it again – at the proper time, of course – were unchanged.  Sights didn’t have to be altered, and reloading components and equipment were the same.

Makers of sporting – hunting – rifles were manufactured in the ‘new’ caliber.  Well into the 1950s, if not later.

Does this sound familiar and absurd, like most gun control laws?  Nothing new, boys and girls.

By the way, the “S” suffix can mean one of two things, perhaps both.  “S” is a shorthand for Spitzgeschoss, Anglicized to ‘spitzer’ – pointed – bullet.

The “S” is also thought to be a designation for a .323 inch bullet (and presumed bore diameter) in a German designed 8mm rifle.

In point of fact, the 8×57 cartridge – then the German Empire’s issue rifle cartridge – changed the specifications in 1905.  What had been a 14.5 gram (224 grain), 8mm (.318”) round nosed bullet at about 2100 fps was changed to a 10 gram (154 grain), 8mm (.323”) pointed (spitzer) bullet at nearly 2900 fps.  The change from round nose to pointed bullet (S) happened at the same time the bullet diameter changed from .318” to .323” (S).

Then a longer range round was developed for machine gun use around the end of WWI.  This loading (version) of the round was a 196 or so grain pointed boat-tail bullet – known as the sS (“schweres Spitzgeschoss”) at a velocity around 2500 fps.  This is also identified as the “Ss” type bullet and loading.  To simplify supply chain demands, this loading was made the standard round for infantry rifles as well.  This was the cartridge and loading used in the 98K rifle of WWII.

In research, one finds a number of various specifications and precise history of developments.  They are all reported as Divine Truth.  Be flexible with other people.  One finds more than one explanation of the same phenomenon.

None of this directly applies to the 8x60mm cartridge, except as background to the loading of this ‘new’ cartridge.  Most of the commercial information relating to the 8x60mm suggest a 180 to 200 grain (at least in English translations) bullet, with velocities ranging from around 2500 to about 2700 fps.  (Comments on recoil will be mentioned later.)

The rimmed versions were typically loaded to a somewhat lesser pressure, as the hinged actions were not rated for higher pressure.  This ‘rule’ seems to apply to all such cartridges.

I will restate the rifle under discussion is a bolt action rifle.  The cartridge is the rimless version.  The barrel is the larger – .323” – bore.

The 8x60mm cartridge should be just a bit more powerful than the 8x57mm cartridge.  The case has somewhat more powder area.  I rather imagine the difference is more theoretical than actual.  The ’98 Mauser action tends to maintain a specific pressure limit for rifles; but one finds one gets higher velocities (at the same pressure) with larger powder charges.  However, this requires slower burn rate powders.  Such powders were not available in the past.

5th Edition Ammo Encyclopedia and Cartridges of the World list four variations:  The rimless type, the direct alteration of the 8x57mm round; the same with a rim for single, double and combination guns.  This is then doubled with both .318” and .323” versions.

A full loaded 8×57 round is a full charge rifle cartridge and easily competes with any of the full power rifles of the era up to current times.

The 8×60 S is a full sized, full charge rifle round – very similar to the 8x57mm round – suitable for harvesting any of the major sized animals of Europe or North America.  Personally, I think there are a few of the very large, dangerous bear with which one should be more careful.  In any case it will quite handily harvest anything which can be taken with .30-06 Springfield.

Recoil is based on velocity times bullet weight, divided by rifle weight (including scope, sling and attached good luck charm.  This rifle weights roughly six pounds, ten ounces.  In contrast, the 98K Mauser used in WWII weighed eight pounds, three ounces to nine pounds.

This rifle is ‘light’ and (to my thinking) recoil is restricted to what is suitable for the shooter.  I do NOT care to load this rifle to the absolute upper limit.

This 8x60mm rifle was not designed for casual plinking or an afternoon of groundhog shooting.  This is a ‘stalking’ rifle; carried a lot and shot seldom.

Think of shoulder pain.  Perhaps back pain.

A word of caution.  For those who find a rifle in this caliber, the 8mm caliber is either .318 or .323 inches.  The smaller bore size normally requires the correct sized bullet.  Firing the larger bullets in the smaller bore size is not a good idea.  Most likely, the rifle won’t blow up in a catastrophic failure, but over pressure is not good for the locking lugs and interior of the chamber and bore.  And it just might blow up.

This rifle uses bullet weights of from around 125 grains to 200 grains, easily.  The latest military loading of the 8x57mm round used the heavier bullet and it caught on with most everyone else.  In fact, the heavier bullet is defined in metric terms – grams – as 12.7 grams or 196 (actually 195.990951) grains.  In countries using English measurement, this is typically rounded off at 200 grains.    Loading data seems not to bother with the four grains or so of bullet weight.

Comparison: From right – .223 Annoyance, .308 Winchester, three 8x60mmS rounds.

Three headstamps for 8x60mmS. Norma, DMW, and an as yet unidentified cartridge.

Loaded ammunition is available from Privi Partisan.  Their website shows a 12.7 gram (196 grain) bullet at 780 meters per second (2559 fps) AND a 12 gram (185 grain) bullet at 800 meters per second (2625 fps).  No ‘light’ loads are shown.

Norma (of Sweden) manufactured it at one time, their website does not show such a product currently.  Precision Cartridge Inc. (PCI) sells one loading via Selway Armory.  The PCI ammunition features a 175 grain PSPBT bullet but does not specify the velocity.  Some other European munitions manufacturers once produced this ammunition, but don’t show it currently on their websites.

Privi Partisan sells unloaded brass made for Boxer primers.  Bullets, large rifle primers and powders of the ‘middle’ burn rate rifle use are fairly universal and available.  Regular 8x57mm loading dies work fine, but remember not to resize the cases full length and turn the 8x60mm case into a 8×57 case with a long neck.  8x60mm loading dies are available if you please.

I have settled on experimenting with bullet weights of 150 and 200 grains.  The fixed sights may force me to one bullet weight. I may do some experimentation with 170-175 grain bullets.

Allow me to point out this is not a long range rifle.  The rifle weighs – as noted – less than seven pounds.  Pushing a 200 grain bullet becomes problematic in recoil rather quickly.  The difficulty is not the strength and endurance of the rifle, but the strength and endurance of the shooter.  It kicks like a Missouri mule in a bad mood.  Combine this with iron sights and the aiming process, and one realizes a likely hunting range of 300 yards or meters at the furthest; more likely 200 yards or less.  This, in fact covers the bulk of North American game hunting.

Making ammunition

The easiest and most satisfactory solution of ammunition is to load it myself.

So far, according to the research I’ve done, the WWII 8x57mm round shot a 12.7 gram or 196 gram bullet at near 2400 fps.  The earlier 8x57mm round shot a 10.0 gram or 154 grain bullet at nearly 2900 fps.  The earlier loading was measured in a thirty inch barrel, the WWII loading was from a twenty-four (or so) inch barrel.  Commercial loads are typically low pressure. The existence of older action – particularly the M1888 Commission Rifle – and the uncertainty of .318″ bore diameters tend to make commercial loaders a bit leery to risk their good name and insurance coverage.

Therefore, I should be able – with modern powders – to get a 150 grain bullet to 2700 fps without straining too much and a 200 grain bullet to 2300 fps or better.  My shoulder will probably give up prior to the rifle.  (My fillings could come loose before I hurt the rifle!)

Initial loadings show IMR 4046 pushing the 150 grain bullet around 2800 fps; this load is derived from 8x57mm load information from Lyman #45 manual and is ‘cautious’ in pressure level.  The same powder pushes a 200 grain bullet at just over 2300 fps.  I shot that series of loads from a standing rest.  The recoil still pushed the comb of the stock into my right cheekbone rather briskly.

Reloader 15 (Re15) is in the same – more or less – burning rate as IMR 4064, but seems to be a little slower.  Preliminary experimentation gives me a 200 grain bullet at 2200 fps and still under maximum.

No.  I’m not being specific about loads.  I’m still in the research stage and will reserve specific information pending corroboration and certainty of my own finding.

I know modern rifles and ‘fashion’ (perhaps ‘fad’) tend to suggest rifles must shoot into the next county in order to properly dispatch game, but I disagree.  It will take a mighty big moose to shrug off a proper hit from a 200 grain bullet at 2200 fps.  And mule deer don’t get that big.

Besides, this rifle is cool.

Yeah. Cool.

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Proof Positive!

I presume everyone now has heard of the church location mass murder on Sunday, 5th November 2017.

To recap, a man identified as Devin Patrick Kelley (age 26) killed some twenty people and injured six others at the last count I heard.  The mass murder was conducted around 11:30 AM at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas.

Kelly has been credited with mental problems and aggressive behavior, including being discharged dishonorably from the Air Force and having been confined to some form of mental health facility.

This mass murderer used a firearm or firearms in this mass murder.  The use of a gun has predictably incited every liberal in the world to blame ‘guns’ for the actions of Kelley and most other deaths in the world.

 

However, the proposed legislative answer to the problem of murders – including mass-murders – as making firearms illegal or much harder to obtain – legally, of course – is undercut by the facts.

There are already laws, Federal and most if not all states, flatly barring the possession or acquisition of firearms by those adjudicated as ‘mentally imbalanced’.  The various laws use other terms than ‘mentally imbalanced’ but the underlying concept is the same.  There are already Federal and local laws prohibiting possession or acquisition of firearms by those convicted of ‘domestic abuse’, either as a felony or misdemeanor.  There are other laws in the state of Texas, Wilson County (Texas) and Sutherland Springs (Texas) regarding discharging weapons within certain areas (such as ‘city limits’ or ‘inhabited areas’), and murder.

In other words, if ‘passing a law’ would solve the problem of mass and individual murder, the problem has already been solved.

 

Still there will be those who wail and weep for ‘gun control’ and demand ‘we have to do something!’  I agree, we need to do something.  However, banning guns in an emotional paroxysm of legislation will not cease murders.

What can be done?

The first step is actually two-fold:

  1.  understand blaming an inanimate object for human misconduct – specifically hatred – is ridiculous and puerile.
  2.  understand a law does not prevent misconduct of any sort; a law merely makes such misconduct punishable.

Quickly following the first step is another two-fold action:

  1.  understand there are not enough and cannot be enough law enforcement personnel to immediately stop all violent crimes.
  2.  understand the intended victims are the only people in the place and time to prevent such violent crimes.

So, the facts destroy the argument of more legislation ‘banning’ guns.  All the gun haters have left is emotion and half-truths.  Why does this sound so familiar to me?

 

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The Amazing Ignorance of Jessie Daniels

Whilst innocently perusing the news, I found an article

(http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/31/having-white-nuclear-family-promotes-white-supremacy-says-new-york-professor-report-says.html)

wherein Jessie Daniels, a sociology professor at City University of New York (CUNY) pointed out – suggested – declared – the “white, nuclear family” promotes white supremacy.

I read the rest of the article, presuming to find some innocent or reasonable logic behind what seems to be an outrageous claim.  Seeing I found this article on Fox News, I checked some of the other news sources.

CNN had no articles, pro or con, regarding Professor Daniels.

NPR had nothing.

USA Today had nothing.

Wall Street Journal – nothing.

BBC – nothing.

I did find a website, seemingly her own – which listed Jessie Daniels as “Jessie Daniels, PhD – Writer, professor, speaker, digital sociologist at Hunter College and The Graduate Center, CUNY. Expert on race, racism and technology. Documentary-curator, aspiring NYT best-selling memoirist.  ​Co-founder, editor, blogger, Racism Review.”

I also found the CUNY page reported in the Fox News article.  It roughly reports the above identification and credentials.

So one presumes Fox News is reporting on the same person.

Without citing all the quotes in the article, Dr. Daniels – I presume – makes the statement, “the white-nuclear family is one of the most powerful forces supporting white supremacy,” adding that that families “reproducing white children” are “part of the problem”.  She went on to say “White people: do you own your home? When you die, where’s wealth in that house going? If it’s to your children, you’re reproducing (inequality).”

I do not trust myself to follow the logic she presents; yet it is blatant:  By maintaining a cohesive family, owning a home and giving their children the benefit of a proper upbringing and an inheritance, “white people” are supporting white supremacy and racial inequality.  I must point out the actions to which Dr. Daniels reportedly objects are all traditional Christian – and other religions – values.  Which seems to suggest she objects to all included.

If that is so, she seems to suggest in order to dismantle white supremacy and foster ‘equality’ between the races (do races exist?  I read races don’t exist somewhere) the white families must stop being ‘nuclear families’, quit owning homes – or presumably anything of value – and stop leaving their wealth to their children.

That seems a bit draconian.

Not mentioned is anything to the effect of non-white people SHOULD encourage nuclear families, the owning of property and the tradition of encouraging and supporting the progeny of the family in an effort to counteract the ‘white supremacy’ movement.  How odd.

Several bits bother me a great deal about this, should the report be true.

  1. The assumption of ‘white supremacy’ as a result of intentionally maintaining a family, family ties and working.
  2. The assumption non-white people cannot do the same.
  3. Such a person as Dr. Daniels would be considered – by anyone other than herself – any sort of authority on anything to do with racial relations or differences.
  4. Any University, College or other organization of learning (down to and including pre-school) would  actually pay her money and keep her on staff as such.

Those with differing views, please present information to dispel my misconceptions.

 

 

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Take a knee! And go to Arlington and kiss the ground of real HEROES!

Forwarded to me by a valued friend who was ‘there’.  It was forwarded to him by an anonymous (to me) friend of his who was also ‘there’.

 

Take a little trip to Valley Forge in January If you don’t know where that is, just Google it from the sidelines.

Hold a musket ball in your fingers and imagine it piercing your flesh and breaking a bone or two. There won’t be a doctor or trainer to assist you until after the battle, so just wait your turn. Take your cleats and socks off to get a real experience. Then take a knee.

Then, take one at the beach in Normandy where man after American man stormed the beach, even as the one in front of him was shot to pieces…the very sea stained with American blood. The only blockers most had were the dead bodies in front of them, riddled with bullets from enemy fire.

Take a knee in the sweat soaked jungles of Vietnam. from Khe San to Saigon… Anywhere will do. REAL Americans died in all those jungles. There was no playbook that told them what was next, but they knew what flag they represented. When they came home, they were protested as well..and spit on for reasons only cowards know.

Take another knee in the blood drenched sands of Fallujah in 110 degree heat.. Wear your Kevlar helmet and battle dress.. Your number won’t be printed on it unless your number is up! You’ll need to stay hydrated but there won’t be anyone to squirt Gatorade into your mouth. You’re on your own. Or at Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Bougainville, or Tarawa!

There’s a lot of places to take a knee. Real Americans have given their lives all over the world. When you use the banner under which they fought as a source for your displeasure, you dishonor the memories of those who bled for the very freedoms you have. That’s what the red stripes mean. It represents the blood of those who spilled a sea of it defending your liberty.

While you’re on your knee, pray for those that came before you, not on a manicured lawn striped and printed with numbers to announce every inch of ground taken….but on nameless hills and bloodied beaches and sweltering forests and bitter cold mountains…every inch marked by an American life lost serving that flag you protest..

No cheerleaders, no announcers, no coaches, no fans…just American men and women…delivering the real fight against those who chose to harm us…blazing a path so you would have the right to “take a knee.”

You haven’t an inkling of what it took to get you where you are; but your “protest” is duly noted. Not only is it disgraceful to a nation of real heroes, it serves the purpose of pointing to your ingratitude for those who chose to defend you under that banner that will still wave long after your jersey is issued to another…

If you really feel the need to take a knee, come with me to church on Sunday and we’ll both kneel before Almighty God. We’ll thank Him for preserving this country for as long as He has. We’ll beg forgiveness for our ingratitude for all He has provided us. We’ll appeal to Him for understanding and wisdom We’ll pray for liberty and justice for all….because He is the one who provides those things.

And there will be no protest. There will only be gratitude for His provision and a plea for His continued grace and mercy on the land of the free and the home of the brave It goes like this…

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

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Went to a Gun Show last weekend

That ‘last weekend’ being 07-08 October, A. D. 2017.

No one was injured due to gunfire, with intent or without.  (We do a pretty good job of keeping saboteurs out.)  There was a dispute between a vendor and a customer; it was resolved without bloodshed or even fisticuffs.  Not every was happy about it, but life is like that.

I did not find any illegal (fully automatic, short barreled arms, suppressed arms or suppressors, all without proper documents or licenses) weapons for sale.

I didn’t see any ‘bump fire’ type stocks for sale.  I wasn’t looking, actually.  They don’t work worth a hoot on bolt action rifles.

I heard no discussions planning illegal activities.

There were no demonstrations for the anti-freedom faction.  Probably not enough press coverage.  (I didn’t ‘miss’ it.)

Didn’t find any super-bargains on anything.  One of my friends did find and purchase a Mannlicher-Schonauer (bolt action) rifle in 8x60mm.  He let me hold it.  It was sensuous in the same manner as shifting gears on a well made sports car or sleeping on silken sheets.  It was less than $600.00 Yankee dollars, rather a bargain.  (Presuming one appreciates that sort of thing.)  Then he and I discussed making reloadable cases for it.

Saw a bunch of old friends.  One of whom was not only still moving, he is getting better.  He had been ill with ‘something’ for far too long and the doctors finally figured out the problem.  It can be fixed with minor therapy and diet.  Nothing requiring him to be disassembled and reassembled.  (Thank you, Lord!)

I had dinner and pleasant fellowship and conversation – not all about guns and very little about politics – with some friends.

I found another history book on the First World War for $25.00.

Downside:  I worked ‘security’ on the midnight to morning watch.  Not a lot of sleep and I was really dragging when the show was over.  I’m nearly back to normal today (end of Monday following).

I LEARNED SOMETHING from each of several people.

 

From my point of view, I had a great time.

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Hate Speech and Murder

On 1st October, an alleged single male individual opened fire with several rifles on a crowd of people attending a Country and Western Music Concert in Paradise, Nevada.  Paradise, Nevada is located in the greater Las Vegas, Nevada area very close to McCarran International Airport.

As most adults are aware, some fifty-eight people were killed at the scene or died as a result shortly following.  Over four hundred people were wounded.

This is a horrific event.  All the victims of the homicidal attack were attending a music concert.   None of them, to anyone’s knowledge, had ever offended the murderer or even inconvenienced him.  This action was horrific.  Decent people around the world are horrified.

As horrible as this was, and the personal damage caused to victims and survivors alike is the reaction of the Left.  Those who claim to stand against ‘hate speech’ and publicly advocate an ‘inclusive’ and understanding view of others.

One Democrat, California State Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon (D-Paramount) made a Facebook statement, on his Facebook page, blaming and specifically including every firearms owner in the United States as being responsible.

Former Secretary Hillary Clinton made a comment of equal venom and ignorance by vilifying sound suppressors – ‘silencers’ – hypothetically.  Just for the record, no sound suppressors were employed.  Nor did the crowd react instantly to the sound of gunfire.

Even more disgusting were the comments by CBS vice president and senior legal counsel Hayley Geftman-Gold (formerly employed in New York).  She said victims of the Las Vegas mass murder were “Republican gun toters” not deserving of sympathy.  She was fired after the statements were made public; but her position indicated a level of bias.

It is interesting in this context to note her statement was made public in a Facebook statement.  She later, after being apprised of her indefensible statement, apologized with much more consideration of her words than her initial statement.

Her unguarded statement is frighteningly reminiscent of the attitude of many dictators and junta members of the last century in showing no regard for ‘them’ (whoever disagreed with the speaker or the speaker’s party).  She essentially wrote off everyone who wasn’t totally agreeing with her feelings.

Just so there are NO misunderstandings, this is HATE SPEECH at the rawest.  It is incredible hatred and undisguised.  One wonders how many other similar statements were made and NOT publicly reported.

In contrast, how many on the Left accuse normal people of hate speech for disagreeing with their continuing destruction of Western values and freedom?

In contrast:

In 2013 (no newer information) there were 6,056 abortions reported in the State of Nevada.  I’m not picking on Nevada, but that’s where the shooting occurred.  Reported.  So this is a minimum number, assuming everyone reports everything accurately and so forth.  This information is from ‘johnstonarchieve.net‘ and cites information from CDC information collection.

In other words, the murders of 1st October amount to One Percent (1%) of the abortions performed in 2013.  From another view, that was roughly seventeen abortions per day (counting Saturday and Sunday).  So in about three and one half days, the numbers of abortions performed roughly equalled the number of people killed at the Las Vegas murders.

The mass-murder on 1st October was hideous.  What does that make the number of intentionally caused deaths due to abortions?  And keep in mind, that isn’t the number of deaths caused currently – the information is four years old.

Of course, this is trivialized by those promoting abortion.  After all, those are not ‘real’ deaths, as the victims were not ‘real’ people; they hadn’t been born yet.  Who cares?

One wonders if the deaths of infants in the United States by abortion is trivialized by people like Hayley Geftman-Gold in similar manner?

Or, in the famous words of another famous (infamous?) leftist, “What difference does it make anyway?”

I should also explain the lives of people are precious in the sight of God, and therefore precious to me.  I am certainly not as good at it as God, but constantly getting better.  (Better than I was, anyway.)  I do not rejoice in the deaths of ‘others’.  Not other races, not other nationalities, not other religions, not other political viewpoints.  (I am aware some jackass will object I left something out in that last sentence.)  Yeah, at times I feel less ‘Christian’ than I should; but then I pray about it and get my head back on straight.

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Stephen Paddock is logically a Leftist, probably Democrat

It only makes sense.

Being transparent and open, I do not know for sure about this.  But it follows from the known facts.  Consider:

The shooter in the Las Vegas mass murder intentionally selected as his target a group of Country-Western music aficionados.  Overwhelmingly,  Country-Western music enthusiasts are pro-American and therefore voted for Donald Trump.  One concludes the shooter suffers from anti-Trump or Trump Derangement Syndrome.

It is silly and illogical to suggest a pro-American would select such a target group.

 

The shooter made sure the mass murder would fit the pre-arranged claims of the Left aligned Democrat Continuum.  Sure enough, on cue, all the wild eyed Leftists were primed and ready to deploy the ‘ban guns’ paranoid delusion.  (Almost as if they were expecting the incident?)

It is silly and illogical to suggest a pro-American would damage the Second Amendment in such manner.

 

The shooter didn’t want to face his victims.  They weren’t real people to him, just ‘them’.  Very typical of Leftist thought and behavior.

All the pro-American people I know are rather ‘person oriented’, at least in this sense.  Very few are back shooters.  Pro-American people tend to consider the consequence of their actions more carefully.

 

The shooter killed himself rather than face the public, the justice system or the real world.

That is self-evident and I’ll leave it alone.

 

The last bit of known fact presumes Mr. Paddock was in fact the murderer.  If Mr. Paddock was deployed only as a decoy, scape-goat or red-herring, the actual murderer fit into the first three items and then killed Mr. Paddock to cover his crimes.

At the very least the Las Vegas murderer committed his crime to assist the Left, based on logical thought.

 

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